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Episode 4 – Original upload 20.3.16

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97% VINYL FRIENDLY.   Will it get any better than that?

A Word Of Warning

Certainly one track in this show is ‘sonically challenged’… and it’s also the one that contains an expletive or ten.

Lyric of Playlist 4: It’s a tie!

Either ‘Someone, somewhere says they’ve got it all, but that’s not even what we want. Not even close, not even close. It wont ever be what we want’.

Or ‘Zed is the black sheep of the alphabet, Zed is the masculine letter. I’ve known Zed’s who’ve only taken B’s to bed, they said that G’s couldn’t scorch their sweaters’.

Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) 41 Rooms ‘tweak’ 😉

(Intro) THE FLAMINGOS – Stars (Edit) – Unreleased demo – 1983

Episode #1 for info.

00.40

NEW ORDER – We All Stand * – The Peel Sessions, 12″ EP – Strange Fruit – 1986

To these ears, New Order’s second session for John Peel – broadcast June 1, ’82 and from which We All Stand is taken – is their best body of work, albeit there are just four tracks. The visual here is from the bootleg vinyl 12″ of the session that appeared in  the early ’80s.

New Order - We All Stand

As of the actual upload date of this playlist, it’s a day short 35 years since I promoted New Order at Bedford Boys’ Club… so here are a couple of bits of memorabilia from the night.

001 ticket (lighter)

Gillian, Barney, Twinny, Terry, Hooky & Steve (Bunger)

Gig photo, copyright: Rod Coleman

05.23

CLICK CLICK – Playground – Rorschach Testing LP – Play It Again Sam – 1988

From Luton, a band I loved and was heavily involved with in the second half of the ’80s, putting out their records on Rorschach Testing, a label owned by myself and graphic designer mate, Mick Lowe, and subsequently, with me as their manager, to CC signing to Play It Again Sam. Getting lumped in with the industrial scene at the time was understandable but the band were more expansive than that. The visual here is from the US copy of the album the band named after our label.

Click Click - Playground

Pre Click Click’s Rorschach Testing days, a poster for their gig at one of our Winkles club nights, 28.11.84.

Click Click, Winkles 28.11.84 poster

09.00

COCTEAU TWINS – In The Gold Dust Rush – Head Over Heels, LP – 4AD – 1983

There’s a slightly younger generation of CT fans who pick albums further down the line as faves, but for me Head Over Heels was their finest, and along with getting New Order and Cabaret Voltaire to Bedford back in the day, having the Cocteau Twins play my home town seemed as unlikely… but we managed it. Here, the original artwork for the Boys’ Club gig ticket.

Cocteau Twins Bedford ticket artwork. Old skool!

12.19

FELT (feat Liz Fraser) – Primitive Painters – 12″ – Cherry Red – 1985

What a marriage! Liz Fraser and Felt, and a barometer of the time – £2.79 for a 12″ single in 1985. A track feeling far bigger than that of ‘single’, so it was well worth the price.
Felt - Primitive Painter

And previously unpublished (errr… apart from the From Heaven to Heaven Facebook page) this may possibly be the only photo of Liz and Felt ‘together’ – my fumbling camerawork managing somehow to capture their respective soundchecks in the same shot, at one of the five UK gigs (I’m not quite sure which) the two bands linked up on, mid April, 1984. Selling my Rorschach Testing magazine – and judging by one of the other photos, the Cocteau Twins t-shirts as well – and with very good mate, Budge along for the trip, this was a week I’d be happy living again… apart from the bit where I had to call the police to get my car out of a pub’s locked car park in Oxford before we’d even got to the first of the gigs.

Liz and Felt (sort of)

Copyright: Dec Hickey

18.13

BLOOD SPORT – Welcome To The Foyer – Axe Laid To The Root, LP – Blast First Petite – 2016

Released in February and pointed in my direction by their label boss and a long time friend, Paul Smith. To date, this is the newest release to grace 41 Rooms. And I’ll leave it to the Blast First Petite PR to sum up…

‘Drums, electronics, electric chordophone, baritone guitar, voice’ – ‘Premiere ambassadors of Sheffield’s aggro-beat sound’ – ‘Audio propaganda from the UK’s First City of Sanctuary’ – ‘Mongrel soundclash pups of Hi-NRG ‘tronics & Afro-Beat’ – ‘Musical wing of Northern Underground Party Agitators Hydrid Vigour’ – ‘Brothers-In-Arms to tie dye tapes & the Audacious Art Experiment’ – ‘Shoe-Less Dancers’ – ‘A glorious fusion of opposing forces… you never quite know if they are here to start the party or destroy it’ (Loud and Quiet)

Blood Sport

24.17

WHITE DENIM – I Start To Run * – 7″ – Full Time Hobby – 2009

Fiery stuff!

White Denim - I Start To Run

27.08

EGOSLAVIA – Lost Song – Egoslavia, mini LP – 9  1/2 x 16″ Records – 1982

One I’d file under having ‘Missed It At The Time’.

Egoslavia - Lost Song

29.22

KLINGONS – The First Question – 7″ – Kang Records – 1980

The sleeve hints this is the B-side but the vinyl says otherwise. I’ll go with the latter, as it’s a way more crucial sound for me. Either way, a salute to a great lost voice. In the late seventies and early eighties, Sarah Osborne (This Is Some Of Your Life) fronted the Klingons, Repetition, Marine and Allez Allez, and apart from a couple of singular re-appearances a few years later she effectively then left music. Maybe not ‘technically’ a great vocalist, she still rocked it from jagged post punk to Belgian new wave funk and here she is with four tracks from three of the aforementioned bands.

Klingons - First Question

32.16

And also in this ‘grouping’, the second in an occasional series of (‘B-side, what B-side?’) double A-side 7″ers…

REPETITION – Fade Out – 7″ – Les Disques du Crépuscule – 1981 plus…

36.44

A/The Still Reflex

Glorious stuff! Played to bits back in the day… and the vinyl tells me as much.

Repetition - A Still Reflex

repetition - A Still Reflex

40.37

ALLEZ ALLEZ – Marathon Dance – African Queen, mini LP – Kamera – 1982

A bit of that aforementioned Belgian new wave funk was always right up my street.

Allez Allez - Marathon Dance

Previously unpublished. Sarah Osborne on stage with Allez Allez. Heaven, London, 13.7.81

Marine (16)

Copyright: Dec Hickey

43.25

JOSEF K  – The Missionary – 7″ – Les Disques du Crépuscule – 1982

A bona fide post-punk classic. No argument.

Josef K - The Missionary

46.53

NEGATIVLAND – You Don’t Even Live Here – Escape From Noise, LP – SST – 1987

All roads lead to their website and massive radio show archive.

Negativland - You Don't Even Live Here

48.37

U.N.K.L.E. (feat IAN BROWN) – Be There – 12″ – Mo Wax – 1999

Monumental!

‘Based on ‘Unreal’ from the ‘Psyence Fiction’ album, this reworking features Ian Brown’s spartan vocals over a mellow mellotron backing… ‘ ***** James Hyman, Record Mirror (Music Week), 13.2.99

UNKLE - Be There

53.21

GB INTERPRETS A RACE OF ANGELS – The Main Attraction – GB Interprets His Contemporaries, 12″ EP – Mahasa Music – 2010

I first heard Gabriel Reyes-Whittaker in 2004-2005 – as it happens, under his GB moniker used here… and he’s flown slightly under the radar ever since, with some very bespoke and limited edition releases along the way – and all his presently available material is here at Gifted & Blessed.

GB Interprets - The Main Attraction

56.13

OMAR feat STEVIE – Feelin It/I’m Feeling You – Single-sided 12″ – White label – 2009

Of dubious legality… but a wicked track.

Omar (feat Stevie_ - Feelin' It

01.00.59

LAUGHING LIGHT OF PLENTY – The Rose * – 12″ – Whatever We Want Records – 2008

One double album (of eight tracks) and one 12″ is all they produced… and both cost quite a bit to get hold of these days.

Laughing Light Of Plenty - The Rose

01.05.53

PLAY A FEW – Wicked Turntable Games – Single-sided 12″ – No label – 1999

Another ‘less than legal’ offering… but a brilliant fusing of Chris Isaac’s hit, Wicked Games, into Richie Hawtin’s Electrophunk Remix of La Funk Mob’s Motor Bass Get Phunked Up. That’s cleared that up. Yet another single I saved a number of times from the bargain bins back in the day, though I really didn’t do this often, honest. Currently, I’ve three copies.

Play A Few - Wicked Turntable Games

01.10.27

JACKSON C. FRANK – Milk And Honey – Self-Titled LP – Columbia – 1965

A tragic life, outlined in his Wikipedia entry, but if nothing else, those gifted with a talent sometimes get to leave something to treasure to a great many of us… and he did.

Jackson C. Frank - Milk And Honey

01.13.59

THE HIDDEN ORCHESTRA – The Burning Circle * – Download only – 2011

The HO sample the above Jackson C. Frank track and 41 Rooms has added to it… with part of Teddy Kennedy’s eulogy to his late brother, Robert.

Hidden Orchestra - The Burning Circle

01.15.36

THE DISTRIBUTORS – TV Me – 7″ – White/no label – 1979

One top, top track back then… and it still sounds brilliant. Archetypal post punk, it seemingly had two different sleeves. Here’s mine.

Distributors - TV Me

01.19.10

DEVO – Timing X * – Duty Now For The Future, LP – Warner Brothers – 1979

Another from the ‘sonically challenged’ department but I think it still just about holds together. And hopefully the ‘crop circles nutter’ I overlaid here got some counselling to sort out his anger management issues. The fact that what he’s getting so worked up about is… a crop circle(!)… is worrying enough to start with.

Devo - Timing X

01.20.24

D.R.Y. Project – Bizarre Tastes – 7″ – Di-Stance – 1986

Sounding like an Oriental Talking Heads, I still have the recording of John Peel playing this on his radio show in ’86 and for two and a half decades afterwards I spent a good bit of time trying to chase this single down thinking they were called D.I.Y. Project. Having finally cracked it, it then became the third most expensive single I’ve bought to date. Not hugely expensive in the bigger collecting world, just so for me. I was just about to buy a second copy from the same seller, when someone else nipped in.

D.R.Y. project - Bizarre Tastes

01.23.49

CANDI STATON – Do Your Duty – Pepe Bradock Mixes 12″ – Honest Jon’s – 2004

Don’t know what the lady herself made of this… but it’s more than fine by me.

Candi Staton - Do Your Duty

01.26.43

Here come three belting dancefloor tunes from the more modern day end of the Acid Jazz label.

ANDY LEWIS (feat BETTYE LAVETTE) – Laughter Ever After –  7″ – Acid Jazz – 2004

The Let Me Down Easy woman still firing on all cylinders.

Andy Lewis - Laughter Ever After

01.30.27

THE THIRD DEGREE – Mercy – 7″ – Acid Jazz – 2009

Should you want to track this down, beware! Some copies on the Tri-Sound label and labelled as The Third Degree and Mercy, have completely different songs in the grooves.

Third Degree - Mercy

And as it’s Acid Jazz, here’s AJ label boss and top man, Eddie Piller, citing some of his vinyl faves in September ’96 – Record Mirror, 7.9.96.

Eddie Piller article, 7.9.96

01.33.41

TONY CHRISTIE – Something Better – Now’s The Time! LP – Acid Jazz – 2011

And the third of the Acid Jazz Three here. Albeit he’s got a big voice, this is probably one of the very few times I’ll ever have need of the ‘Amarillo’ man at 41 Rooms. I wonder how many have actively travelled to Amarillo to see what it’s actually like?

Tony Christie - Something Better

01.36.57

S(pencer).D(avis).G(roup). – I’m A Man * – I’m A Man Remixes 12″ – Melted Dubs – 2012

More legally shady goings on, but a stomper all the same. The 12″ is very ‘bitty’, but 41 Rooms edited together the best bits here.

S.W.D. - I'm A Man

01.41.02

Y PANTS – Favourite Sweater – 7″ EP – 99 Records – 1980

Another that didn’t hit my radar at the time but it’s the sort of tune I might actually like more now than I might have then… and looking at Discogs, it’s been wanted by a good few.

Y Pants - Favourite Sweater

01.43.25

THE CHINESE STARS – Drugs And Sunshine – Listen To Your Left Brain, LP – Skin Graft Records – 2007

Chinese Stars… but actually from Providence, Rhode Island, US of A. Modern day post punk, to me… ‘noise rock’ to others, maybe.

Chinese Stars - Drugs And Sunshine

01.46.37

Joint Lyric of the Podcast… 

THE ASSOCIATES – A – The Affectionate Punch, LP – Fiction – 1980

This album stood out prominently back in 1980 and Billy Mackenzie will have been likely missed by a steadily growing army of fans since his death back in 1997. Here’s to one truly great vocalist and some classy tracks and mischievous lyrics along his way.

Associates - A

01.50.18

LLOYD COLE & THE COMMOTIONS – Rattlesnakes – 7″ – Polydor – 1984

For some reason this sounds way better to me now than it did back in 1984.

Lloyd Cole - Rattlesnakes

01.53.33

TERMINAL WHITE – Worker – Worker, LP – White Records – 1988

I only happened on these bods a couple of years back. A bit of an ‘industrial’ thing going on here.

Terminal White - Worker

01.57.32

Joint Lyric of the Podcast…

THE DEARS – We Can Have It * – 7″ – Bella Union – 2004

Good to see some numbered/Limited Edition coloured vinyl creep in here, if only at the end. Some tracks are just right for that ‘credits rolling’ space… and this is such a track.

Dears - We Can Have It

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    1. I lost the best part of a day’s editing on this one, Adrian. Could do without that happening again. 🙂 🙁

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Episode 86 – Original Upload 6.12.20

PLAYLIST 86 uploaded Dec 6, 2020 94% vinyl friendly. Near perfect. The Kronos turntable, a $28,000 beast in a limited run of 250 in 2012 — ‘but when you see and hear the Kronos Turntable, you’ll think it must cost much more‘… said one carefree reviewer. And assuming all 250 were sold, I reckon there’ll have been […]

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Episode 85 – Original Upload 1.11.20

PLAYLIST 85 uploaded Nov 1, 2020 83% vinyl friendly. Impressive. Listen With Your Eyes, by Chrissie Macdonald. One of ten one-off Rega Planar ‘augmented’ turntables up for auction on Nov 12, the proceeds of which will go to this year’s Secret 7″ charity partner, Help Refugees. Any track marked * has been given either a […]

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Episode 84 – Original Upload 4.10.20

PLAYLIST 84 uploaded Oct 4, 2020 and is 75% vinyl friendly. Not bad. Built to DJ on some war torn front line, or the edge of a 1950s atomic bomb testing site… or maybe not. Origin and marque unknown. Any track marked * has been given either a tiny or a slightly larger 41 Rooms […]

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Episode 83 – Original Upload 6.9.20

PLAYLIST 83 uploaded Sept 6, 2020 and is 90% vinyl friendly. Impressive. Lest we forget, music centres were de rigueur in the ’80s and this one, a Music Center Crown SHC-5500 Hi-Fi, looks like a more bells and whistles (and lights)/blinged version of the comparatively humbler National Panasonic set up I had and indeed the […]

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Episode 82 – Original Upload 2.8.20

PLAYLIST 82 uploaded August 2, 2020 and is 90% vinyl friendly. Impressive. ‘The Planet’ – Courtesy of a gent called Hayarobi, 2405 pieces of Lego and an Audio-Technica 1Ea cartridge. Any track marked * has been given either a tiny or a slightly larger 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc. Lyric of Playlist 82… ‘… cos your mama’s […]

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Episode 81 – Original Upload 5.7.20

PLAYLIST 81 uploaded July 5, 2020 and is 86% vinyl friendly. Impressive. Roughly £80 to buy, so think how little it cost to make… and the quality of the parts involved?!? In other words, you’d be mad to grab one of these for anything other than slightly thrashed vinyl, a kids intro to the world […]

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Episode 80 – Original Upload 7.6.20

PLAYLIST 80 uploaded June 7, 2020 and is 81% vinyl friendly. Impressive. See through, to see what’s going on… and the first turntable in the world to have a ‘high-fidelity built-in valve phono stage‘, apparently. An Automatic Turntable MkII from Gearbox. Any track marked * has been given either a tiny or a slightly larger […]

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Episode 79 – Original Upload 3.5.20

PLAYLIST 79 uploaded May 3, 2020 and is 96% vinyl friendly. Soooo close! Near perfect. Handcrafted, custom-restored/rebuilt vintage turntable via Artisan Fidelity. A ‘work of art’ said one review, AF’s pricing for these lads ranges from $4895 to $58,000. Any track marked * has been given either a tiny or a slightly larger 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc. […]

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Episode 78 – Original Upload 5.4.20

PLAYLIST 78 uploaded April 5, 2020 and is 79% vinyl friendly. Not bad. Russian back-in-whatever-day (‘toy’?) turntable. Cracked cover and batteries not included. Currently on eBay for £200, inc p&p from the Ukraine. Don’t all rush. Any track marked * has been given either a tiny or a slightly larger 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc. And one […]

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Episode 77 – Original Upload 1.3.20

PLAYLIST 77 uploaded March 1, 2020 and is 97% vinyl friendly. Oh so close! Nope, it’s not some weird pressure cooker set up, it’s a turntable – $13,000’s worth (give or take) of TriangleART Signature SE turntable to you. Lyric of Playlist 77… ‘While you were calculating tears my head expired.’ Not an ideal scenario. […]

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Episode 76 – Original Upload 2.2.20

PLAYLIST 76 uploaded February 2, 2020 and is 97% vinyl friendly! Ooooh, sooooo close! A Pro-Ject VT-E BT turntable. It’s only here to represent the ‘upright camp’ but whatever any space limitations this would help with, I would never be able to get my head around looking at the arm on a moving record and […]

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Episode 75 – Original Upload 5.1.20

PLAYLIST 75 uploaded January 5, 2020 and is 88% vinyl friendly! Impressive. A Pye 1005 Achoic Stereophonic Projection System. It’s a Sixties thing. One for mate, Angus Cameron, as he grew up with one of them. Lyric of Playlist 75… It’s rare it goes to a dance track on 41 Rooms but Louie Vega and […]

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Episode 74 – Original Upload 1.12.19

PLAYLIST 74 uploaded December 1, 2019 and is 94% vinyl friendly! Near perfect Ah, memories. I used to have one of these. A Technics 1200 MK1. Lyric of Playlist 74…. Confusion in her eyes that says it all… etc. Ian C’s real life recollection makes this a no contest. 00.00 (Intro) THE FLAMINGOS – Stars […]

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Episode 73 – Original Upload 3.11.19

PLAYLIST 73 uploaded November 3, 2019 and is… 73% vinyl friendly! Not bad. The above? An Ion Duo Deck Digital Conversion Turntable. $99 or thereabouts. Be aware, a few of the tracks (cassette takes) are sonically challenged. Lyric of Playlist 73…. maybe belongs to Ms Armitage. Ripping it up. 00.00 (Intro) THE FLAMINGOS – Stars […]

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Episode 72 – Original Upload 6.10.19

PLAYLIST 72 Playlist 72 is 90% vinyl friendly! Impressive. The above courtesy of one Zach Dicklin. If you fancy knocking one up yourself. Tracks marked * have been given either a tiny or a slightly larger 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc. Lyric of Playlist 72…Gliddy gloop gloopy, Nibby nabby nooby, La la la lo lo. You probably […]

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Episode 71 – Original Upload 1.9.19

PLAYLIST 71 Uploaded September 1, 2019 Playlist 71 is 79% vinyl friendly! Not bad. In a museum here and there, and maybe $2000 if one crops up on the open market, a late 30’s John Vassos design for RCA. As you might guess, 78RPMs only. So, should you get to be near one, keep any […]

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Episode 70 – Original Upload 4.8.19

PLAYLIST 70 Uploaded August 4, 2019 Playlist 70 is… 93% vinyl friendly! Near perfect. The beast above? Supposedly £450,000… give or take… Tracks marked * have been given either a tiny or a slightly larger 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc. Lyric of Playlist 70…. ‘… the passage of my life is measured out in shirts… ‘ As […]

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Episode 69 – Original Upload 7.7.19

PLAYLIST 69 Uploaded July 7, 2019 Playlist 69 is… 83% vinyl friendly! Impressive. AudioWood Sound Garden. Leaves on the tracks! Just because ‘you can’ isn’t always a great reason that ‘you should’. Tracks marked * have been given either a tiny or a slightly larger 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc. Lyric of Playlist 69…. There’s some desperate […]

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Episode 68 – Original Upload 2.6.19

PLAYLIST 68 Uploaded June 2, 2019 Playlist 68 is… 77% vinyl friendly! Not bad. Tracks marked * have been given either a tiny or a slightly larger 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc. Lyric of Playlist 68 (includes) And I feel just like Sigourney WeaverWhen she had to kill those aliens… Ah, we’ve maybe all been there. Just […]

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Episode 67 – Original Upload 5.5.19

PLAYLIST 67 Uploaded May 5, 2019 Playlist 67 is… 85% vinyl friendly! Impressive. A Word Of Warning. A couple of tracks in this show are slightly ‘sonically challenged’. Lyric of Playlist 67 As much for the melody it rides on…Now season with health, Two lovers walk on lakeside mileTry pleasing with stealth, rodeo (?), See […]

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Episode 66 – Original Upload 7.4.19

PLAYLIST 66  Uploaded April 7, 2019 Playlist 66 is… 77% vinyl friendly! Not bad… Any track marked * has been given either a tiny or a slightly larger 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc. A Word Of Warning. Certainly one track in this show is ‘very sonically challenged’. Lyric of Playlist 66 If you gave me a pound […]

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Episode 65 – Original Upload 3.3.19

PLAYLIST 65  Uploaded Mar 3, 2019 Playlist 65 is 90% vinyl friendly. Impressive. Any track marked * has been given either a tiny or a slightly larger 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc. Lyric of Playlist 65 A few bits of quirkiness and social comment I could have gone for, but the prize goes to ‘And if it […]

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Episode 64 – Original Upload 3.2.19

PLAYLIST 64  Uploaded Feb 3, 2019 Playlist 64 is… 100% vinyl friendly! Da Daaahhh! The first 41 Rooms show to be so, though you’d have to go some, financially, (over £1000, I’d say) to have them all on the plastic stuff…. and I certainly haven’t. Any track marked * has been given either a tiny or […]

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Episode 63 – Original Upload 6.1.19

PLAYLIST 63  Uploaded Jan 6, 2019 Playlist 63 is 94% vinyl friendly. Near perfect. Any track marked * has been given either a tiny or a slightly larger 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc. Lyric of Playlist 63 Being that I’m 61 and not 16, it’s the Herbert Kretzmer ‘adaptation’ of Aznavour that takes it this time. 00.00 (Intro) […]

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Episode 62 – Original Upload 2.12.18

PLAYLIST 62  Uploaded Dec 2, 2018 Playlist 62 is… 97% vinyl friendly!!!!! It couldn’t have been closer to being a ‘full house’. See below. Any track marked * has been given either a tiny or a slightly larger 41 Rooms tweak/edit/chop/etc. Lyric of Playlist 62 And when this building is on fire, these flames can’t burn […]

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Episode 61 – Original Upload 4.11.18

PLAYLIST 61  Uploaded Nov 4, 2018 Playlist 61 is only 64% vinyl friendly! Very poor indeed. Any track marked * has been given either a tiny or a slightly larger 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc. Lyric of Playlist 61 Stylistically, competition (on maybe a different plain) from the wordsmiths at the end of the show but it has to […]

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Episode 60 – Original Upload 7.10.18

PLAYLIST 60  Uploaded Oct 7, 2018 Playlist 60 is 84% vinyl friendly. Impressive. Lyric of Playlist 60 Not quite a ‘lyric’, but it might have to be the overlaid ramblings of Vance ??? and Fred Nettles. “My main background is… a cat, which is nine feet high… ” Of course it is, Fred. 00.00 (Intro) THE […]

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Episode 59 – Original Upload 2.9.18

PLAYLIST 59  Uploaded Sept 2, 2018 Playlist 59 is 86% vinyl friendly. Impressive. Any track marked * has been given either a tiny or a slightly larger 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc. And as is sometimes the case, a couple of tracks here are definitely a bit sonically challenged. Lyric of Playlist 59 If Rome wasn’t built […]

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Episode 58 – Original Upload 5.8.18

PLAYLIST 58  Uploaded August 5, 2018 Playlist 58 is 84% vinyl friendly. Impressive. Any track marked * has been given either a tiny or a slightly larger 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc. And as is often the case here, a track or two can be a bit sonically challenged. Lyric of Playlist 58 Mr Newbury’s not here […]

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Episode 57 – Original Upload 1.7.18

Uploaded July 1, 2018    It’s for real… the needle-free ‘Wheel’! 41 Rooms’ Playlist 57 is 91% vinyl friendly. Near perfect. Any track marked * has been given either a tiny or a slightly larger 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc. Worth noting, a couple of tracks or so are a bit sonically challenged. Lyric of Playlist 57 […]

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Episode 56 – Original Upload 3.6.18

Uploaded June 3, 2018 41 Rooms’ Playlist 56 is 86% vinyl friendly. Impressive. Any track marked * has been given either a tiny or a slightly larger 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc. Lyric of Playlist 56:  Do you work at a job you despise? Do you live with cockroaches? Have you been mugged lately? Did your favourite […]

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Episode 55 – Original Upload 6.5.18

41 Rooms, Playlist 55  Uploaded May 6, 2018 41 Rooms’ Playlist 55 is 85% vinyl friendly. Impressive. Any track marked * has been given either a tiny or a slightly larger 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc. Lyric of Playlist 55:  The soulful ‘The way we feel it should be… has the right to emerge‘ or… the just […]

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Episode 54 – Original Upload 1.4.18

41 Rooms, Playlist 54  Uploaded April 1, 2018 41 Rooms’ Playlist 54 is 88% vinyl friendly. Impressive. Any track marked * has been given either a tiny or a slightly larger 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc. One track is certainly sonically challenged. Apologies. Lyric of Playlist 54:  Even as a strident non-believer I can at least like […]

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Episode 53 – Original Upload 4.3.18

41 Rooms, Playlist 53  Uploaded Mar 4, 2018 41 Rooms’ Playlist 53 is 83% vinyl friendly. Impressive. Any track marked * has been given either a tiny or a slightly larger 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc. Lyric of Playlist 53:  ‘Listen’… and in two different languages, but it could have gone to a couple more that are […]

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Episode 52 – Original upload 4.2.18

41 Rooms, Playlist 52  Uploaded Feb 4, 2018 41 Rooms’ Playlist 52 is 91% vinyl friendly. Near perfect The tracks marked * have been given either a tiny or a slightly larger 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc. Lyric of Playlist 52:  ‘Getting Up Is Not As Easy As Getting Down                […]

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Episode 51 – Original Upload 7.1.18

41 Rooms, Playlist 51 41 Rooms’ Playlist 51 is 85% vinyl friendly. Impressive. The tracks marked * have been given either a tiny or a slightly larger 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc and one track certainly is very sonically challenged. Lyric of Playlist 51:  Mudriczki and Mackenzie tie. ‘You know I’ve been blinded out on a golf […]

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Episode 50 – Original Upload 24.12.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 50 41 Rooms’ Playlist 50 is 85% vinyl friendly. Impressive. Just the one track (marked *) has been given a tiny 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc. Lyric of Playlist 50:  Has to be Gil. 00.00 (Intro) THE FLAMINGOS – Stars (Edit) – Unreleased demo – 1983 Episode #1 for info. 00.41 NEW ORDER – […]

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Episode 49 – 10.12.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 49 41 Rooms’ Playlist 49 is 89% vinyl friendly. Impressive. Any track marked * has been given a tiny 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc… Lyric of Playlist 49:  Sometimes you’ve just got to keep it simple, real and heartfelt. Come on down, Daniel V. 00.00 (Intro) THE FLAMINGOS – Stars (Edit) – Unreleased demo […]

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Episode 48 – Original Upload 26.11.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 48 41 Rooms’ Playlist 48 is 92% vinyl friendly. Near perfect. Track marked * has been given a tiny 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc… and a couple of tracks certainly suffer from some sonic misgivings. Apologies. Lyric of Playlist 48:  ‘The miserable Scottish hotel resembled a Genesis or Marillion, 1973 LP cover… ‘ Care of […]

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Episode 47 – Original Upload 12.11.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 47 41 Rooms’ Playlist 47 is 85% vinyl friendly. Impressive. Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc… Lyric of Playlist 47:  ‘A knife and a fork, a bottle and a cork. That’s the way to spell New York.’ Of course it is. 00.00 (Intro) […]

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Episode 46 – Original Upload 29.10.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 46 41 Rooms, Playlist 46 is 88% vinyl friendly. Impressive. The Hurricane Ophelia Set! A day after I uploaded show 45 I experienced my first hurricane. Mostly, it wasn’t what some experience in other parts of the world but with no internet my time was best spent getting show 46 under way […]

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Episode 45 – Original upload 15.10.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 45 41 Rooms, Playlist 45 is 90% vinyl friendly. Near perfect.  Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc… Lyric of Playlist 45:  Their styles and the worlds they’ve written in feel lifetimes apart but it’s a dead heat between Hal David and Alex Turner. […]

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Episode 44 – Original Upload 1.10.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 44  41 Rooms, Playlist 44 is 83% vinyl friendly. Impressive.  Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/etc… and a few sound a bit sonically challenged. Lyric of Playlist 44:  It goes to the late JL… and that’s without feeling particularly spiritual myself. 00.00 (Intro) […]

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Episode 43 – Original Upload 17.9.17

PLAYLIST 43 41 Rooms’ Playlist 43 is 79% vinyl friendly. Not bad. Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/whatever… Lyric of Playlist 43:  Belongs to the late Ian Kevin Curtis. 00.00 (Intro) THE FLAMINGOS – Stars (Edit) – Unreleased demo – 1983 Episode #1 for info. 00.39 […]

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Episode 42 – Original Upload 3.9.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 42  41 Rooms, Playlist 42 is 83% vinyl friendly. Impressive Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/whatever, and… For differing reasons, a couple of tracks have slight sonic misgivings. Lyric of Playlist 42:  From times more innocent than now, The Flowers: ‘…put on my casual […]

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Episode 41 – Original Upload 20.8.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 41  41 Rooms, Playlist 41!… is 72% vinyl friendly. Not bad. Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/whatever, and… NB: One track here is slightly sonically challenged. Lyric of Playlist 41:  With a handful of worthy contenders in between, for the sake of a little […]

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Episode 40 – Original upload 6.8.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 40  41 Rooms, Playlist 40 is 96% vinyl friendly. Sooooo close! Tracks marked * have been given a 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/whatever…   Lyric of Playlist 40:  A slight cop out but a bit of consciousness from the the brothers gets it, with a cursory nod also to the title of Playlist’ 40 – […]

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Episode 39 – Original Upload 23.7.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 39  41 Rooms, Playlist 39 is 94% vinyl friendly. Near perfect. Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/whatever… and  Note: This edition certainly has one track with a few profanities. If you’re of a certain disposition, be aware.  Lyric of Playlist 39:  G-SH’s, here in […]

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Episode 38 – Original upload 9.7.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 38  41 Rooms, Playlist 38 is 87% vinyl friendly. Impressive. Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/whatever… Lyric of Playlist 38:  ‘Do you work at a job you despise? Do you live with cockroaches? Have you been mugged lately? Did your favorite jeans shrink in […]

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Episode 37 – Original upload 25.6.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 37   41 Rooms, Playlist 37 is 93% vinyl friendly. Near perfect. We might get there one day. Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/whatever… and a couple of tracks are slightly sonically challenged. Lyric of Playlist 37:  For the sheer cockiness – ‘Leeds… […]

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Episode 36 – Original Upload 11.6.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 36 41 Rooms, Playlist 36 is 83% vinyl friendly. Impressive. A bit of a warning. One or two tracks are slightly sonically challenged. Lyric of Playlist 36:  The Speeka boys may be speaking best here… 00.00 (Intro) THE FLAMINGOS – Stars (Edit) – Unreleased demo – 1983 Episode #1 for info. 00.41 NEW […]

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Episode 35 – Original upload 28.5.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 35 41 Rooms, Playlist 35 is 97% vinyl friendly. Soooooo close. Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/whatever. Lyric of Playlist 35:  It’s a rap… RG-style – ‘Things getting stranger, they’re stranger every year. Fear come to hunt, feedin’ off the land. Well it might […]

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Episode 34 – Original Upload 14.5.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 34 My niece’s growing love of vinyl meant she’s acquired one of these to play the stuff. 41 Rooms, Playlist 34 is 76% vinyl friendly. Not bad. A Word Of Warning: A couple of tracks in this show are slightly ‘sonically challenged’. Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly […]

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Episode 33 – Original Upload 30.4.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 33 41 Rooms, Playlist 33 is 88% vinyl friendly. Impressive. Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/whatever. Lyric of Playlist 33:  ‘No more Red Wedge in the pub or ZTT stuff… ‘ – That Mark E. a sniping. 00.00 (Intro) THE FLAMINGOS – Stars (Edit) […]

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Episode 32 – Original Upload 16.4.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 32 Album looks a bit samey… 41 Rooms, Playlist 32 is 79% vinyl friendly. Not bad. Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/whatever. Lyric of Playlist 32:  ‘It’s a good job you didn’t, what with all this unemployment going on… ‘ More an aside, it’s a […]

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Episode 31 – Original upload 2.4.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 31 41 Rooms, Playlist 31 is 77% vinyl friendly. Not bad. Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/chop/whatever. Lyric of Playlist 31:  Gil Scott-Heron’s recount – and likely fully explained somewhere at the time of release. 00.00 (Intro) THE FLAMINGOS – Stars (Edit) – Unreleased […]

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Episode 30 – Original upload 19.3.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 30 41 Rooms, Playlist 30 is 86% vinyl friendly. Impressive Lyric of Playlist 30:  A bow to the late Scott Hardkiss. 00.00 (Intro) THE FLAMINGOS – Stars (Edit) – Unreleased demo – 1983 Episode #1 for info. 00.41 NEW ORDER – We All Stand (Tokyo, 1985) – Pumped Full Of Drugs, VHS – […]

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Episode 29 – Original Upload 5.3.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 29 41 Rooms, Playlist 29 is 79% vinyl friendly. Not bad. NB: One of the tracks is a bit sonically challenged, though it seems like it was just recorded that way… and the show nearly had to be postponed when I lost the whole audio and had to start from scratch again… not […]

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Episode 28 – Original upload 19.2.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 28 41 Rooms, Playlist 28 is 86% vinyl friendly. Impressive. Lyric of Playlist 28:  Assuming it was with someone in particular in mind, it might have to go with Marv. 00.00 (Intro) THE FLAMINGOS – Stars (Edit) – Unreleased demo – 1983 Episode #1 for info. 00.41 NEW ORDER – The Perfect Kiss […]

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Episode 27 – Original Upload 5.2.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 27 41 Rooms, Playlist 27 is 81% vinyl friendly. Impressive. Lyric of Playlist 27:  Award could be going to Tracey T. 00.00 (Intro) THE FLAMINGOS – Stars (Edit) – Unreleased demo – 1983 Episode #1 for info. 00.41 NEW ORDER – Primitive Notion – Get Ready, LP – London Records – 2001  As […]

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Episode 26 – Original upload 22.1.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 26 41 Rooms, Playlist 26 is 83% VINYL FRIENDLY. Impressive Lyric of Playlist 26:  With either Arthur or Jon. Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/whatever. 00.00 (Intro) THE FLAMINGOS – Stars (Edit) – Unreleased demo – 1983 Episode #1 for info. 00.39 NEW […]

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Episode 25 – 8.1.17

41 Rooms, Playlist 25 41 Rooms, Playlist 25 is 93% VINYL FRIENDLY. Near perfect. OK, ears! One track is sonically challenged with some bad language and another is… well, just sonically challenged. ‘Lyric’ of Playlist 25:  It could have been the hip hop dons cutting and pasting George Bush Sr to great effect, or indeed […]

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Episode 24 – Original upload 25.12.16

41 Rooms, Playlist 24 41 Rooms, Playlist 24 is 80% VINYL FRIENDLY. Impressive. Lyric of Playlist 24:  ‘It’s alright ’cause the historical pattern has shown, how the economical cycle tends to revolve… ‘ Catchy! You’re in a different space when you layer a cheery tune with this level of observation on recession. 00.00 (Intro) THE […]

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Episode 23 – Original upload 11.12.16

41 Rooms, Playlist 23 41 Rooms, Playlist 23 is 87% VINYL FRIENDLY. Impressive. Lyric of Playlist 23:  Mr Curtis gets it again. One tune here, certainly, is a bit sonically challenged and those marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/whatever. 00.00 (Intro) THE FLAMINGOS – Stars (Edit) – […]

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Episode 22 – 27.11.16

41 Rooms, Playlist 22 41 Rooms, Playlist 22 is 89% VINYL FRIENDLY. Near Perfect. Lyric of Playlist 22:  Even with a fair amount of competition 2Bo4 shade it. Conscious stuff… A couple of the tunes here are a bit sonically challenged and, separately, those marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) […]

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Episode 21 – Originally uploaded 13.11.16

41 Rooms, Playlist 21 41 Rooms, Playlist 21 is 90% VINYL FRIENDLY. Near Perfect. Lyric of Playlist 21: At least I’ve avoided giving it to the late Billy Mac once again… ‘Feel it’s time to pull away, shut your ears to all they say, be yourself you know it’s true, when in the end what’s left […]

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Episode 20 – Original Upload 30.10.16

41 Rooms, Playlist 20 41 Rooms, Playlist 20 is 81% VINYL FRIENDLY. Impressive. Lyric of Playlist 20: ‘Crack may seem cool, it may seem good, it’s the quickest way to kill a neighbo(u)rhood‘. Different era, different means, but without doubt some equivalent result going on somewhere right now. Tracks marked * have been given a […]

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Episode 19 – 16.10.16

41 Rooms, Playlist 19 41 Rooms, Playlist 19 is 90% VINYL FRIENDLY. More than excellent. Lyric of Playlist 19: Combined with the performance – it’s with Mr Curtis. Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/whatever 00.00 (Intro) THE FLAMINGOS – Stars (Edit) – Unreleased demo – 1983 […]

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Episode 18 – Original Upload 2.10.16

41 Rooms, Playlist 18 41 Rooms, Playlist 18 is 72% VINYL FRIENDLY. Not bad. A few cassettes crop up, hence a bit vinyl poor. Lyric of Playlist 18: ‘Pioneers and traders bring gifts; Smallpox, Seagrams and rice krispies… ‘  a history lesson in a poem. 00.00 (Intro) THE FLAMINGOS – Stars (Edit) – Unreleased demo – […]

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Episode 17 – Original Upload 18.9.16

41 Rooms, Playlist 17 41 Rooms’ Playlist 17 is 93% VINYL FRIENDLY. Near Perfect! Lyric of Playlist 17: Ms JM’s contribution, from start to finish. Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/ whatever. 00.00 (Intro) THE FLAMINGOS – Stars (Edit) – Unreleased demo – 1983 Episode #1 […]

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Episode 16 – Original Update 4.9.16

41 Rooms, Playlist 16 41 Rooms’ Playlist 16 is 82% VINYL FRIENDLY. Impressive. Apologies, I had to record this show at 6.30am when I woke and I had a bit of a croaky voice and fuzzy head thing going on. ‘Normal’ service will be back for the next one.  Lyric of Playlist 16: They’re not […]

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Episode 15 – Original Upload 21.8.16 (inc Winkles 1981, Pt 4. Big Guns +)

41 Rooms, Playlist 15 is 94% VINYL FRIENDLY. Near perfect. Lyric of Playlist 15: ‘I go ab ba ba ba ba bada bada ba ba ba ba bada bada, woh oh oh oh‘. Approximately. I’d say it’s more debatable than usual. Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) 41 Rooms […]

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Episode 14 – Original Upload 7.8.16

PLAYLIST 14 is 77% VINYL FRIENDLY.  Not bad. Lyric of Playlist 14: The two lines prior give the game away, so… Your limitations are our every care. Every breath you breath belongs to someone there. Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) 41 Rooms ‘tweak’/edit/whatever. 00.00 (Intro) THE FLAMINGOS – […]

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Episode 13 – Original Upload 24.7.16

PLAYLIST 13 is 88% VINYL FRIENDLY.  Impressive. Lyric of Playlist 13 ‘I shot out of my old man’s shooter, summer of ’73. Straight into the biological computer of my old girl’s feeding (fruiting?) machine… ‘ The cockney sounding vox adds to the cheeky chappieness. Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly […]

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Episode 12 – Original Upload 10.7.16 (inc Winkles 1981, Pt 3. More Big Guns)

41 Rooms, Playlist 12 is 97% VINYL FRIENDLY.  Near perfect! Lyric of Playlist 12: Grandma, your generation believed in talk. Scared of the very steps in which you walked. Father listened to all that was said, until depression set in, leaving mouths unfed… A bit of conscious soul wins it over what could have been […]

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Episode 11 – Original Upload 26.6.16

41 Rooms, Playlist 11 is 77% VINYL FRIENDLY.  Not bad. Lyric of Playlist 11:  They come from Tennessee. Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) 41 Rooms ‘tweak’ 😉 00.00 (Intro) THE FLAMINGOS – Stars (Edit) – Unreleased demo – 1983 Episode #1 for info. 00.40 NEW ORDER – Everything’s […]

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Episode 10 – Original Upload 12.6.16

41 Rooms, Playlist 10 is 83% VINYL FRIENDLY. Impressive. A Word Of Warning: NB: A couple of tracks in this show are slightly ‘sonically challenged’. Lyric of the Podcast:  Although it’s predominantly newsreel audio, track 15 shades it. 00.00 (Intro) THE FLAMINGOS – Stars (Edit) – Unreleased demo – 1983 Episode #1 for info. 00.41 […]

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Episode 9 (inc Winkles 1981: Pt 2) – Uploaded 29.5.16

41 Rooms, Playlist 9 is 93% VINYL FRIENDLY. Near Perfect. Lyric of Playlist 9: ‘Each new hour holds new chances for new beginnings, the horizon leans forward offering you new space to place new steps of change… ‘ Could only be with the poetess… 00.00 (Intro) THE FLAMINGOS – Stars (Edit) – Unreleased demo – 1983 […]

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Episode 8 – Original Upload 15.5.16

41 Rooms, Playlist 8 is 85% VINYL FRIENDLY. Impressive. In memory of Rob Gretton, who died seventeen years ago today (May 15). Lyric of Playlist 8: Where’s the harm in voicing your doubt? You’ll find me in the lavatory. And where’s the harm in talking out loud, when I’m on my own? What’s so wrong […]

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Episode 7 – Original Upload 1.5.16

PLAYLIST 7 is 91% VINYL FRIENDLY. More than excellent. Lyric of Playlist 7:  ‘I wanna be instamatic, I wanna be a frozen pea, I wanna be dehydrated, in a consumer society… ‘ Tracks marked * have been given a tiny (or sometimes, slightly bigger) 41 Rooms ‘tweak’ 😉 00.00 (Intro) THE FLAMINGOS – Stars (Edit) […]

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Episode 6 (inc Winkles 1981: Pt 1) – Original upload 17.4.16

41 Rooms, Playlist 6 is 93% VINYL FRIENDLY. Near perfect. Lyric of Playlist 6: A bit of a tease. The verses either side of ‘But whatever is behind the door, there is nothing much to do. Angel or devil I don’t care. For in front of that door, there is you.’ Tracks marked * have […]

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Episode 5 – Original upload 3.4.16

41 Rooms, Playlist 5 is 86% VINYL FRIENDLY. Excellent. Lyric of Playlist 5: ‘Television, the drug of the nation, breeding ignorance and feeding radiation. T.V. It satellite links our United States of Unconsciousness. Apathetic, therapeutic and extremely addictive, the methadone metronome pumping out 150 channels 24 hours a day, you can flip through all of them, […]

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Episode 4 – Original upload 20.3.16

41 Rooms, Playlist 4 is 97% VINYL FRIENDLY.   Will it get any better than that? A Word Of Warning Certainly one track in this show is ‘sonically challenged’… and it’s also the one that contains an expletive or ten. Lyric of Playlist 4: It’s a tie! Either ‘Someone, somewhere says they’ve got it all, but […]

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Episode 3 – Original upload 6.3.16

41 Rooms, Playlist 3 is 85% VINYL FRIENDLY. Impressive.  A Word Of Warning: A couple of the tracks in this show are slightly ‘sonically challenged’… and elsewhere an expletive or two will crop up. 41 Rooms, Playlist 3 Lyric of Playlist 3: Maybe unsurprisingly, as it’s a poem, the words to ‘Autumn Rose’. Incorporated into an […]

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Episode 2 – Original upload 21.2.16

41 Rooms, Playlist 2 is 94% VINYL FRIENDLY.  Near perfect. Lyric of Playlist 2: ‘I’ll see you baby when the clans rise again. Women and men united by the struggle going down. With a pocketful of plastic like a dollar on elastic. In this free world. I wouldn’t tell you if I didn’t care’. Tracks […]

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Episode 1 – Original upload 7.2.16.

41 Rooms, Playlist 1 is 86% VINYL FRIENDLY.  Impressive. Lyric of Playlist 1: ‘I wanted to change the world, but I could not even change my underwear. And when the shit got really, really out of hand, I had it all the way up to my hairline, which keeps receding like my self-confidence, as if […]

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